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rick1027 · Mar 05, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

this is my monk bar as i have set up. my problem is not really good at using the proto part of my bar

[skill]Word of healing[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]dismiss condition[/skill]
[skill]cure hex[/skill][skill]protective spirit[/skill][skill]aegis[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]rez chant[/skill]

my question is when should i use my proto spirit and aegis. my thought is pre use aegis before battle but if i should see a target getting damage should i use proto spirit before the heal or after the heal

Chik N Nuggets · Mar 05, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

proto?

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Siirius Black · Mar 05, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42

I think he refers to "Protective Spirit".

I usually use it when I see that one of the party members is being hammered constantly. That skill will slow the rate of health degradation siince party member cant loose more than 10% of his current health. This will allow you to heal other party members before getting back to that player.

Daenara · Mar 06, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I tend to watch the screen instead of the red bars. If you see 3 big bad guys stand next to one little caster hero, you know it's in for a world of pain, so use prot spirit then?

The best advice I can give is to try monking without your party bar on for a while, you get much better at following the fights and preprotting.

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 06, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

@ Daenara, Yikes! I spend probably 75% of my time watching the bars during a battle. Is the technique you mentioned one that all good monks use, or just one that you have developed a knack for?

Juno Onuj · Mar 06, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

@ Daenara, Yikes! I spend probably 75% of my time watching the bars during a battle. Is the technique you mentioned one that all good monks use, or just one that you have developed a knack for?

Watching bars is bad.

mrmango · Mar 06, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Learn to watch the battlefield.

Cherng Butter · Mar 06, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

You can prot spirit anybody you predict to receive a whopping of elementalist boss damage, or the warrior as he runs in.

samcobra · Mar 06, 2008, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

@ Daenara, Yikes! I spend probably 75% of my time watching the bars during a battle. Is the technique you mentioned one that all good monks use, or just one that you have developed a knack for?

Yes, all good monks watch the screen instead of party bars. Party bars are there just to remind you to mop up damage. For the most part, you should focus on preventing that damage in the first place, which means you need to look at the field.

His advice is good. Press P, set your hero monk to pure heal, and just monk using the field. Force yourself to shy away from the party bar.

I D E L E T E D I · Mar 06, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

in addition to samcobra's advice. Run an SoD pure prot build and preprot at your hearts desire. Why SoD you might ask. Simply because its the only good Prot Elite that encourages good pre protting

Coloneh · Mar 06, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45

where is rof on your skillbar? i cant seem to find it... why is this?
you shouldnt need prot spirit all that often, rof(where is it?) and SoA/shielding hands/guardian(where are they?) should handle most pressure

JDRyder · Mar 06, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

where is rof on your skillbar? i cant seem to find it... why is this?
you shouldnt need prot spirit all that often, rof(where is it?) and SoA/shielding hands/guardian(where are they?) should handle most pressure

shhhhhhhhhhh

but yea id take out Dkiss for rof, best most skill ever. but dont take out PS thats also leetness

Div · Mar 06, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Losing protective spirit in HM is like losing an arm.

ShockValue · Mar 06, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

I try and pre-aegis right before a pull. With 14 in protection, and a 20% enchant staff, most of the mobs drop before aegis does. It makes the rest of the healing/protting very relaxed.

ender6 · Mar 06, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

shhhhhhhhhhh

but yea id take out Dkiss for rof, best most skill ever. but dont take out PS thats also leetness

I think you are grossly exaggerating the leetness of RoF. During the days of the Boon Prot it was simply amazing. Nowadays it is more of a panic button skill. Lately I have found it sliding off of more and more of my monk bars to make room for more proactive skills. In PvE HM I suppose scenarios would arise where I'd need to fall back on it. In NM, not a chance.

Chthon · Mar 06, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Losing protective spirit in HM is like losing an arm.

Or rather, losing PS leads to losing an arm...

Yichi · Mar 06, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by JDRyder

shhhhhhhhhhh

but yea id take out Dkiss for rof, best most skill ever. but dont take out PS thats also leetness

I would drop the rez chant for the rof personally... Monks shouldn't be ressing.

Coloneh · Mar 07, 2008, 04:03 AM // 04:03

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Originally Posted by ender6

I think you are grossly exaggerating the leetness of RoF. During the days of the Boon Prot it was simply amazing. Nowadays it is more of a panic button skill. Lately I have found it sliding off of more and more of my monk bars to make room for more proactive skills. In PvE HM I suppose scenarios would arise where I'd need to fall back on it. In NM, not a chance.

you serious? its 5 energy for a huge heal, sorta. it lowers damage and then heals which is sorta like a huge heal... anyways, use it more. If i could only take 1 skill on my bar it would be rof, brings bars up faster than any other non-elite in the game for 5 energy.

ender6 · Mar 07, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

you serious? its 5 energy for a huge heal, sorta. it lowers damage and then heals which is sorta like a huge heal... anyways, use it more. If i could only take 1 skill on my bar it would be rof, brings bars up faster than any other non-elite in the game for 5 energy.

Yes I am quite serious. How is it anymore effective than say WoH, as described by your usage? Which is on most Hybrid Prot bars.

If you want red bar up, use WoH. Not RoF. Sounds like you've been using RoF inappropiately. Like I said, it's a great panic button skill. It certainly has saved many of asses on many of occassion. But, as I stated: in PvE NM I have no need for it.

fainty · Mar 07, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

inside HM only depends what build you use...
Mostly RoF is kinda nice, but at some missions you will find it slacking and can use an other skill better instead. Same for WoH as your choice of elite skill...